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I love everything that Diana Butler Bass writes and I really like her latest book, Freeing Jesus. I was so honored to interview Dian Butler Bass on Madang Podcast on her latest book Freeing Jesus.

Last fall, I tweeted some quotes from my forthcoming book Hope in Disarray. One of those tweets caught Diana Butler Bass’ eyes and she asked for the page and reference saying that it will be wonderful to include the quote in her book Freeing Jesus..

I thought it will be great if Diana quotes from Hope in Disarray but was not really expecting it. But when her book Freeing Jesus came out and she really did quote me, I was blown away. So thrilled to be quoted by Diana Butler Bass. Read her book to find my quote.

Also, watch, listen to my madang podcast with Diana Butler Bass on her book Freeing Jesus.

About Madang:

Madang is the outdoor living room of the world. Here, we invite you to sit and tune into unreserved, remarkable conversations with renown authors, leaders, public figures and scholars on religion, culture and everything in-between.

Episode 1:

My first guest is Dr. Diana Butler Bass. She has a Ph.D. from Duke University. She is the author of over 10 award winning books. Today, I talk to her on her latest book Freeing Jesus. It is such an important book for us today as we try to reconcile some of our pains of growing up in the church and what Jesus as friend, teacher, Savior, Lord, way, and presence means to us today.

We discussed Quakers, memoir theology, decolonization, Bible and so much more. Listen or watch my first episode of madang.

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